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Title: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on April 21, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
Can't seem to stop eating lately - and ALL the wrong things... Terrified to get on the scale. How do we emotional eaters stop eating for comfort, love, anger, etc.? I'm very tired of eating low carb with everyone around me eating everything they want, though I know without a doubt it's the best. So why do I keep blowing it?! I'll resolve to DO it each day and then just start eating and then can't stop till the "next" day. This is how I got to 330 lbs to begin with <sigh> and I was down to 265 and don't want to regain it all...

Please help!

Jacki
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Doug Varrieur on April 21, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
Hi Jackie, you're an addict, we are all addicts. Your cravings feed each other and its up to you to break that vicious circle. Time to clean out the pantry again EVERYTHING not FTS friendly must go. Your entire family needs to support you during this important time whether they like it r not, we're talking about your health here Jackie.

One meal at a time girl, just like learning to walk again....one step at a time.

Deep breaths, take action  8)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on April 21, 2014, 10:12:37 AM
Find your trigger that makes you start eating and remove it. Detox again and all will be well,we are here for you ;)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Joagain on April 21, 2014, 02:24:32 PM
sounds like me and yes as Doug said we are addicts , no different then any other addict . If I have a bite or two of crap food in no time it is like I can not get enough even though it is making me very sick with all the symptoms I get have nothing at the house and if you cant do that if you have a husband like I do you have to be strong one day at a time one hour at a time
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: mouseissue on April 21, 2014, 02:37:28 PM
Hi, Jacki! :)

Jo and Doug are right!... We're carboholics.
We have to approach life one day, and sometimes one minute, at a time.

Rather than focusing on what others are eating,
focus on your own delicious meals.

There's an old saying from the South; "One man's meat, is another man's poison.".
If you think of high carb foods as poison to your body, it will help you a lot.

Tony
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on April 21, 2014, 04:30:19 PM
Thanks so much, everyone...  Doug - I wish I could do that, but my husband's mother who has dementia lives with us and she's 94 and he feels she should be able to eat whatever she wants - which at this point is mostly sweets, go figure!  I HAVE asked him to please keep her food hidden but it never fails that I either see it when he's bringing in the groceries or I hear her asking for something and then can picture it - or the worse is when I'm the one who has to feed her and sometimes HAND feed her this stuff :(

Today has been good so far.  Umpa - the problem is I have so many triggers and most I can do nothing about (like my knee pain or the fact I'm homebound at this point except for 2 times a week) - and I"m not sure how to handle the emotional triggers.  They seem to come from out of nowhere.

What do y'all do about that "urge" that just comes on all of sudden and you have no idea where from?  Like today I was eating a good lunch and felt very satisfied but then about an hour later just felt like "I WANT to EAT!!!" ugh.
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Doug Varrieur on April 22, 2014, 08:31:58 AM
Jackie, when you get that "I wanna eat" feeling without really being hungry drink as much water as you can stomach. When your gut is full the feeling will pass  8)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on April 22, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
I keep busy,that helps alot. What do you do all day? Do you have hobbies or work?
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: juvee on April 22, 2014, 11:06:29 AM
Hi Jackie,

I hear your pain.  Most of us easily identify with the word "addict" when it comes to carbs.  And temptations seem to be everywhere. It sounds like you are dealing with a lot of stress and food has become a way to deal with this.  Carbs can certainly be such a comfort - but only temporarily.  I'm sure I am not saying anything you do not already know.  

Is there any chance you can look into some resources that will enable you to have some free time to yourself?  Failing that hopefully you might be able to garner a bit more support within the home.  If your mother-in-law enjoys sweets then you may have to take a stand and insist that others give these to her. Easier said than done of course, depending on her needs and the availability of others in the household to lend a hand.

Maybe you can make some low carb sweets (fudge comes to mind) and substitute these for your mother-in-law's usual treats!  Eliminating the temptations will be a good start and if you happen to overindulge in the low carb goodies every so often it won't be as bad as eating all the full carb foods.

Over Easter I have also strayed a little off track so I will be doing my best to apply the same advice to myself.

Try not to worry about falling off the wagon.  Just jump back on and do your best to get on track.

 
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: rennard on April 23, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
I would admit that I'm guilty when Doug said we're all addict in carbs. On the other hand, we can control or stop our addiction in eating carbs. We can command ourselves to what we eat and what we shouldn't eat. Again, that will depend on how we are determine to do it.
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: mouseissue on April 23, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
That's right, rennard! :) :) :)

It's really comes down to level of commitment.
Like anything else, if you want it badly enough, you will get it. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: AliciaInTX on April 24, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Hey, Jackie!
It IS really hard. I've been at my goal weight for over a year now and I still struggle. What does help me is to really THINK about it when I have cravings. I force myself to think of what I REALLY want and if the short term euphoria of eating whatever sweet it is that I'm craving is worth the longterm pain and frustration. I think about how ashamed and angry at myself I will be if I give in...and how hard it will be to get back on track. I think about how hard I've worked so far and whether I want to undo that for something that is so short lived in satisfying me. And, as Doug suggested, I drink as much water as I can stomach. :) Also, tea is great. Tea has kind of become my comfort "food" these days. I reward myself with it when I am stressed out....and while it's not the same high that I get from sugar, I'm training my brain to replace it as my treat to myself when I need one. Find something that is YOUR treat but that won't sabotage what you're trying to do for yourself. It sounds like you have a lot that you're doing for others and that you are not in control of. I think maybe taking control of your food issues will empower you? That's how I feel about it, at least. Instead of letting it run me...I try to run it and when the cravings try to take over, it's a war I'm determined to win. I hope that helps some!
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: mouseissue on April 24, 2014, 12:08:38 PM
Hi, Alicia! :) :) :) :)

You've been missed around here!

If you're at goal and still struggling with cravings, are you eating any high-carb foods (even occasionally)?

Similar to alcoholics, as carboholics, even occasional "sugar" can reawaken "the craving beast".
This can create mini-sugar-detox events. And those can create struggles.

Tony
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on April 25, 2014, 09:52:12 AM
Well said Juvee ;)
Welcome back Alicia :)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Elizabeth779 on April 26, 2014, 01:29:06 AM
Hi Jacki -- I'm so glad you posted -- Your story sounds like my story.....and all the above responses are absolutely so spot on.  In fact I think I'll print them and carry them around to re-read when I struggle (which is often).  Like you and the others we have this thing in common of carb addiction.  And it's like a cave-in to our life that the only way out is a lot of hard work to dig out from under, and I'll agree with you that is very difficult in light of eating patterns, bad habits, and emotional and very real difficulties in our lives.....I'm with you on the difficulties of a relative with dementia -- I've been caretaking a mother with dementia.  While at times I could just fall or dive head first into a bag of M & M's, I always always always desire, long for, yearn for the freedom from carb addiction, and oh heck jacki you know from your success to get to 265 how much better you felt mentally, physically, spiritually on the wagon versus sunk into carb hell. 

Morgan wrote the famous "hike up the big girl undies and get with the program" post, but it's always true, whether it's the first time we hike them up to make things better or the 99th time.  We just have to keep on working on that effort and never give up. 

Years ago I envisioned that my journey to mastering carb addition, good health, and weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/) would be like I'm in San Diego and need to travel to my destination that is Seattle.  Now that trip is being made in say a cranky old car (representing lifes trials and my bad habits), but I will never make it to Seattle without keeping my car pointed north AND traveling....sometimes slow, sometimes faster, but I have to keep the car on the road pointed north.  If we had a break down on the road we wouldn't just pull up on the side of the road, give up and set up camp???  and we can't with carb addiction either and if you've noticed, the family around here doesn't require our perfection to assist us. 

All above suggestions from FTS family have amazing inspiration and solid helpful suggestions.....for instance, I was sitting here yearning for cookies....instead got up and made cup hot decaf tea with zero sweetener.  Let's find a new comfort food like tea....oh and I suggest meditation, relaxation tapes, prayer, etc....and keep posting...whenever I blow it I want to hide, and that's not good either.



Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on April 26, 2014, 08:02:16 AM
Great advice :)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: mouseissue on April 26, 2014, 12:41:36 PM
I agree with Umpa!... Great advice, Elizabeth!!! :) :) :)

We all must remember that no matter what else, life will be life... unpredictable.
But if we build a solid commitment and hold on to it like a rock,
when life tosses us a storm (or two), we can get through it.

Your mindset is one of success.
That success will become apparent over time... You WILL reach your goal! :) :) :)
And Jacki will join you, if she adopts it.

Tony
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Elizabeth779 on May 02, 2014, 03:33:10 AM
Hi Jacki -- time to check in with us and let us know how you are doing.....sending good thoughts your way...
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: Strucker on May 03, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Hey Jacki! Let's talk about outta control eating, shall we?! I used to be the w o r s t! Most of yall know my story, so I'll spare ya! But whatever the mother n law cooked, I ate! And believe you me! It was not Fat to Skinny related! (&she even got the book!) Well, one day...The light came on! She and I "bicker" alot anyway, & seriously all she's gonna do is throw a fit anyway! So I decided one day just to start picking my battles.  She's never gonna change the way she cooks, but I can change! WoW....lol, enlightening, huh? But for me, I wasn't a confrontational person, until... (&well just leave it at that!:-) but once I realized I had the power of change, it was on! I find myself eating better and making wiser choices. And also, I keep a journal of everything she cooks and everything I eat. Helps me alot. Sorry for the novel! Lol...
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 05, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
I keep busy,that helps alot. What do you do all day? Do you have hobbies or work?

I've been unable to work since I got sick in 1989 :(

I do love to read, play computer games, and I do play piano in the band at church so practicing is fun for me.  I also love watching movies, but unfortunately that usually is an invitation to eat...  Right now, I'm mostly watching out for my mother-in-law during the day but that only keeps me upset.
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 05, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
Hey, Jackie!
It IS really hard. I've been at my goal weight for over a year now and I still struggle. What does help me is to really THINK about it when I have cravings. I force myself to think of what I REALLY want and if the short term euphoria of eating whatever sweet it is that I'm craving is worth the longterm pain and frustration. I think about how ashamed and angry at myself I will be if I give in...and how hard it will be to get back on track. I think about how hard I've worked so far and whether I want to undo that for something that is so short lived in satisfying me. And, as Doug suggested, I drink as much water as I can stomach. :) Also, tea is great. Tea has kind of become my comfort "food" these days. I reward myself with it when I am stressed out....and while it's not the same high that I get from sugar, I'm training my brain to replace it as my treat to myself when I need one. Find something that is YOUR treat but that won't sabotage what you're trying to do for yourself. It sounds like you have a lot that you're doing for others and that you are not in control of. I think maybe taking control of your food issues will empower you? That's how I feel about it, at least. Instead of letting it run me...I try to run it and when the cravings try to take over, it's a war I'm determined to win. I hope that helps some!

Thanks so much for this - it is very helpful to me(!) - as are all the other suggestions you wonderful people have offered.  I had already started asking myself which do I want to be "deprived" of - this particular food OR the good health, etc., that comes from eating this way - so your comment is along the same lines :)
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 05, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
Hi Jacki -- I'm so glad you posted -- Your story sounds like my story.....and all the above responses are absolutely so spot on.  In fact I think I'll print them and carry them around to re-read when I struggle (which is often).  Like you and the others we have this thing in common of carb addiction.  And it's like a cave-in to our life that the only way out is a lot of hard work to dig out from under, and I'll agree with you that is very difficult in light of eating patterns, bad habits, and emotional and very real difficulties in our lives.....I'm with you on the difficulties of a relative with dementia -- I've been caretaking a mother with dementia.  While at times I could just fall or dive head first into a bag of M & M's, I always always always desire, long for, yearn for the freedom from carb addiction, and oh heck jacki you know from your success to get to 265 how much better you felt mentally, physically, spiritually on the wagon versus sunk into carb hell. 

Thanks so much, Elizabeth!  I LOVE your analogy about the car trip and breaking down, etc.!  And I appreciate your reminder of how much BETTER I felt/feel when eating FTS and losing weight instead of being "sunk into carb hell" - perfect analogy, and I think I'd really forgotten how bad it used to be.  Maybe I needed this little detour to get a true fresh start with fresh determination - ?
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 05, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
Hey Jacki! Let's talk about outta control eating, shall we?! I used to be the w o r s t! Most of yall know my story, so I'll spare ya! But whatever the mother n law cooked, I ate! And believe you me! It was not Fat to Skinny related! (&she even got the book!) Well, one day...The light came on! She and I "bicker" alot anyway, & seriously all she's gonna do is throw a fit anyway! So I decided one day just to start picking my battles.  She's never gonna change the way she cooks, but I can change! WoW....lol, enlightening, huh? But for me, I wasn't a confrontational person, until... (&well just leave it at that!:-) but once I realized I had the power of change, it was on! I find myself eating better and making wiser choices. And also, I keep a journal of everything she cooks and everything I eat. Helps me alot. Sorry for the novel! Lol...

WOW!!!!  The light bulb just went on for me, too!  I have NO control over my current circumstances - the mother-in-law with dementia that I am care taking even though I'm sick myself... the husband who won't consider placing her anywhere else... the NON-FTS food that is ALWAYS around this house and being eating right in front of me... and even the fact that I have no clue how much longer this is all going to last (and the guilt I feel for hoping it will end soon)...

The ONLY thing I can take any control over is ME.  MY reactions.  MY attitude.  MY eating choices...  What good is it going to do if I regain all this weight I've lost just to get a short-term "reward"(?????) of eating high-carb foods that I could care less about just a few months ago before all this other mess started?!!!  What good is it going to do to have to take more and more insulin again like I did BEFORE I learned about FTS????  I need to remember all the positive benefits this way of eating has given me and the whole reason I started making this change to begin with - to literally SAVE MY LIFE after being in the hospital last September with weird heart and brain issues most likely caused by swelling and inflammation - most likely caused by high insulin in my system - most definitely caused by high glucose - most definitely caused by high carb intake...  WOW.

THANK you!!
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 05, 2014, 11:35:21 AM
UPDATE....

Okay - you've asked for an update.  I was really avoiding coming on here to give it, but need to anyway.  At first - and for a couple of weeks - I did VERY well again.  I'd gained 8 lbs. back and 4 came right back off and I felt a renewed sense of hope.  However, last week for some weird reason 4 lbs. came right back on (taking me back up to the 8-lb. gain) even though I was eating "perfectly" - and I got frustrated and upset and somehow convinced myself that bingeing on carbs was a GOOD thing and that I "deserved" it - especially after all I've been going through and then eating right an then gaining weight anyway, blah, blah, blah...  A pity party in other words.

So I spent the whole weekend again eating wrong.  And this morning I decided to forget everything and start OVER completely.  All the way back to reading the book!  I've only read up to the middle of Chapter 1 and already I'm being reminded of WHY I started eating this way to begin with!!!!  Like Doug says - it's so "simple" - these stupid carbs are just NOT compatible with my metabolism AT ALL.  Not to mention the cravings and guilt, etc., that come right back every time I give in again.

I'm so very sad to have to let you all know that I "failed" yet again...  but also I do feel I'm really READY now to forget all that and get back TO THIS and continue this journey that I started so successfully.  It worked before - and maybe I took a short detour (thanks, Elizabeth!!) - but I've changed my tires, washed and waxed the car, emptied the trash out of it, hopped back in and am now back on the RIGHT road to continue this journey!
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on May 06, 2014, 09:19:59 AM
Jacki you can do this! If you ever need help please ask.We are all here for you! Your hand in mine we will get you through this.*hugz*
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: mouseissue on May 06, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
Hi, Jacki! :)

That's wonderful that you've changed how you look at things around you and renewed your commitment to FTS.

We can only do so much to change what others do around us.
But we have complete control of how we chose to allow those things to effect us.
This is where solid commitment comes in.

Commitment is like blinders for race horses. Some horses are more easily distracted, and need help.
So they wear blinders which block out what's going on around them.
All they see is the track ahead to their goal, the finish line.

You goal is waiting for you just ahead.
And we'll be running right along side you to help you reach it! :) :) :)

And remember, everyone will falls off the horse sometimes. Some more than others.
But none of us ever fails as long as we get back on... So NEVER, EVER give up!

Tony
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 07, 2014, 07:03:08 AM
Thanks so much, Umpa and Tony... Your support and care means everything to me because I'm getting none at home. My doctor yesterday feels I need to go back on Prozac at least until some of this extra stress is over. I guess I'll try that though I was trying to get OFF my meds - not add MORE... Oh well...
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on May 08, 2014, 08:01:29 AM
Have you ever tried Sam E?
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: jackibar on May 08, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
I've heard of Sam E but haven't tried it before...
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: o0OSusieO0o on May 08, 2014, 09:45:48 AM
There is that saying out there that says you have to fail before you can succeed. That's what I did my first year. Ate carbs for a treat. But got right back on, again & again, but never gave up. Looks like you will succeed too!
Title: Re: Help!! I'm Out of Control!
Post by: umpa on May 10, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
Its a natural anti depressant. I have taken it for years to help with my menopause.Check with your doctor or pharmacist before starting for interactions with other meds. ;)
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Post by: jay12 on May 11, 2014, 04:11:06 AM
Hi jackibar, welcome to express your emotions and believe me I've been where you are about temptations from carbs. Don't give up! Stay with us and you will see changes for sure.