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Title: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 18, 2013, 10:31:16 PM
 I am one of the readers who DOES know about sugar and has ignored it and done it anyway; who lacks discipline.  I'm very reluctant to go to the forum for help, I tend to like to isolate and do things myself.  I feel awful and dejected.  I am always, always hungry (even if I eat high protein, low carb, albeit less hungry with that) and I have a raging sweet tooth.  I feel there's probably no hope for me.  I'm getting fatter and fatter having succeeded and failed for years and years.  Eating over the traumas in my life.  I'm turning 53 on January 28th and  with the diabetes I have and the very fat belly (I think I have had diabetes a LOT longer than when it was diagnosed as have many people), I feel I am doomed.  I don't think I can do it.  I also don't like Splenda (only Stevia) and I worry about getting phytonutrients (I drink green smoothies, but with higher sugar fruits in them, along with the berries...but lots of different greens), and that is NOT low carb.  I am very full of systemic inflammation for years now (high CRP), which will kill me in the long run.  I am someone who does better if I know what to eat and when...that's it...just tell me what to eat and when to eat it, I do better with that kind of structure.  This is my first posting, I appreciate any feedback.  I'm not adept at technology, so please tell me how to read your replies to me when you post...please let me know at mozart8181@comcast.net
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: MommaB on January 18, 2013, 11:18:26 PM
Hey maidmarian and welcome to the forum! Hopefully you will find this reply, I always click on "show new replies to my posts" at the top of the screen when I sign onto the forum! That way you can see what folks are saying to help you!! With that being said, I have had a HUGE sweet tooth as well and have to say that it's waaaay better since I went through the carb/sugar detox, which, for me, took about 2 weeks! To get to that point, you have to be strong and only eat low carb so that you can get through it, no cheating, and drink a boat load of water!!! Here's what I eat on a typical day to give you an idea for what you can eat!

I usually drink a cup of coffee w/4 drops of Zero and 2T heavy cream to start my day. When I feel hungry (usually about an hour after I get up) I will eat 1 sausage patty & 2 eggs cooked in benecol (margarine).

I drink ice water in between meals and I'm really surprised how little food my body needs!

I've discovered recently that I'm slightly hypoglycemic and can't go more than 4.5 hours without eating. If I do, I feel very dizzy, etc.

For lunch, I will have a cup or two of romain lettuce w/ chicken salad (chopped up baked chicken and 1T. mayo.) on top and little bit of olive oil drizzled over.

For dinner I will bake a piece of salmon with butter and garlic "grill mates" seasoning on top. I love eating the flax cornbread ( http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=1302.0 (http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=1302.0) ) for fiber or an Umpa McMuffin ( http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=4438.0 (http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=4438.0) ).

I usually eat a flax meal pancake ,made from the one minute muffin recipe, every other day for breakfast ( http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=968.0 (http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=968.0) )! The fiber helps me stay full longer and helps keep things moving through my system too!  :o

I'll jump back onto this message and put in the links to these recipes from the forum to make it easier for you to find them!!

I really hope this helps you and know that we're all here cheering for you!! Check back often and get to know all the wonderful folks here!!   :D
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: morgan on January 18, 2013, 11:22:04 PM
Welcome maidmarian.  Don't feel reluctant to go to the forum, we are all here to help and support each other.  We have all been through that awful and dejected feeling, with raging sweet tooths.  And most assurdedly there is hope for you.  Have you read Doug's book?  If you haven't I would truly recommend it.  It outlines everything you need to know, and if you have any questions regarding it, someone is here to help.  I'ts really quite simple, the book tells you what to eat and you eat when you are hungry.  Drink lots water too.

I'm sure you feel fantastic once you take control of your life and do this for yourself.

In regards to the Splenda - if you don't like it, don't have it.  Stevia is fine; you can try the Fat to Skinny Zero Sweetner which is great.

The great thing about eating this way is that we really don't go without, we have so many substituions for our 'favourites'.

Take heart and plunge right in.  Looking forward to your posts  ;)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Doug Varrieur on January 19, 2013, 09:02:49 AM
Glad to see you finally made it to our family maidmarian. Always being hungry and a raging sweet tooth tell me you are no where near through sugar detox. Those are 2 of the main symptoms of sugar addiction. Eating high protein low carb for a day or 2 then adding carbs back into your diet will simply keep you in a vicious circle. It's time for you to get serious and clean out your fridge and food pantry. Remove all the carbs from your environment.

Starting TODAY keep everything entering your mouth to the lowest carb count possible. Keep a menu journal right here on the forum by posting everything you eat each day at the end of the day or the morning after. This way you'll become accountable for everything you eat and drink and the forum members can quickly catch any mistakes you are making.

Feeling there's no hope for you couldn't be more wrong so change that thought process to hope. Your confidence level will increase as we help tweak your food and your weight starts to come off.

If you stick with this in earnest you'll feel like a new woman in a couple of weeks so get tough and lets go  ;)

 

Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Andrea on January 19, 2013, 09:10:11 AM
We can cheer you on if you take the steps.  Everything you mentioned in your list of ailments can be corrected by low carb eating.  I am assuming that you have Type II Diabetes and there are others on the forum who are off meds and have totally normal blood sugars after adopting and living the FTS way.

Welcome to the forum.  I hope we have a long and successful relationship!
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: umpa on January 19, 2013, 09:39:12 AM
Welcome maidmarian :) I am Umpa, Dougs wife. I hear the desperation in your voice.You have to make the decision you are ready to take control of  your life. I can hold your hand and walk you through this but you have to do the work ;) Commit to just 2 weeks .You will detox and get Blood sugar leveled out. You  will feel wonderful. We will always be here for you :)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: mouseissue on January 19, 2013, 01:17:59 PM
Welcome to the FTS family, maidmarian!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)

When I found FTS, I was beyond where you are now.
I too was a diabetic (type II ), and had completely given up hope of ever losing my excess fat and keeping it off.
I would purposely ignore any new program, supplement, or medication promising to help me.

Then one day, I saw Doug on TV describing how much hidden sugar was in the foods I was eating and what it was doing to me.
I knew right then and there, FTS was going to work.

Thanks to FTS, I've lost most all my excess fat.
Plus, my blood sugar is normal and I no longer take ANY meds! ;D ;D ;D
I've been living the FTS lifestyle for over 2 years and could not imagine EVER going back to my old ways.

Like Umpa suggests, take 2 weeks living the FTS lifestyle to see how it works for you.
If you do, I assure you, you'll be AMAZED at how good you'll feel and your energy levels will be through the roof.

We'll all be right here to help you along your FTS journey to a healthier and skinnier YOU! ;)

Tony
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 19, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
Welcome to the FTS family, maidmarian!!   You have already received some great advise here so I'll just repeat again....Welcome to the family....We are all here for the same reason.  So don't be shy  ;)   You can do this...you just have to make up your mind that it is what you want.  We will be there every step of the way  ;D
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 19, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
This is the greatest, I actually was able to read all of your postings to me, for which I am very grateful!  Thank you all so much!  Here's more info on my whole thing...I HAVE done low carb eating in the past and that is the only thing that has ever made me not as ravenous.  I did feel better after 2 weeks and I actually do know that you do lose that sugar craving.  To answer some of you, yes I am reading Doug's book, which I love.  Also, I love that I can eat hot wings on low carb (anyone have an easy and good recipe?) and I eat a couple of squares of 85% dark chocolate for my sweet tooth.  I make whey shakes and I make them very low carb, whey powder/shakes is great.  As for green smoothies, I think I won't ever give those up.  I do use low glycemic berries in them, but I put a bit of banana because the greens in the smoothies keep the sugars in the fruit from spking blood sugars.  I really need those smoothies as I want phytonutrients in my diet.  If you guys have a better way I'm open to that.  I have to say I'm so happy to have you all to talk to, this is great!!!  I am a professional comedienne, singer and voice teacher.  I travel to perform, particularly to Las Vegas and I really, REALLY want your tips for eating for travel, like good snacks for the plane and hotel.  The meals are pretty much easy, right?  Protein and greens, no more baked potatoes and the like.  So please keep writing to me and I will to you.  I am also very supportive if you need me too!  I can't thank you enough for being there for me.  This is about day 4 on my sugar detox (that's with my smoothies though) and I am finally starting to see a light at the end of this tunnel again.  I DO plan on getting rid of this diabetes and belly fat.  I've struggled with this all my life.  Up and down, never fully succeeding in a sustained way.  Talk to me some more, tell me about your stories too.  Remember, please give me travel ideas and a recipe for hot wings!  Thank you to my new family!!!  I need you guys!
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 19, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
Hi again Maidmarian  :)  Here is my concern for you with that raging sweet tooth.  As long as you are using those smoothies with the banana in them.....you will find it hard to totally detox.  Don't get me wrong....smoothies are great and very nutritious, but you are drinking a lot of carbs.  You can accomplish the same thing with doing a few changes.  For instance have you considered using flavorings for the higher carb items?  I understand your concern about getting your phytonutrients  Here is a great link about the subject and it's benefits.  http://www.webmd.com/diet/phytonutrients-faq (http://www.webmd.com/diet/phytonutrients-faq)

Smoothies are so easy though....use sugar free almond milk, greens and lower carb fruits, whey protein....stevia and if you like banana use the extract or emulsions....a few ice cubs and blend away.  No need to avoid the nutrients  ;D Just be sure to add the carbs up and add them to you daily total of 20 net.  

As for snacks in the hotels and traveling....I always keep beef sticks, cheeses, flavored pork rinds and nuts around.  Any veggie that you can carry around is great too.  I am seeing more and more in gas stations and truck stops hard boiled eggs and other low carb choices.  

As for the wings.....oh so yummy and easy.  Place your wings (2-3 lbs) on a baking sheet (I like to cover the sheet with tin foil and spray with cooking spray to make clean up way easier....you will thank yourself for doing it)  Bake at 350 for about 20-30 minutes until done. Turning them half way through baking.  When done.....Toss them in about 1/2 cup of melted butter and 1 cup of Franks hot wing sauce (or any hot sauce you like) a little pepper.  This process works great too  http://www.food.com/recipe/simple-buffalo-wings-240022 (http://www.food.com/recipe/simple-buffalo-wings-240022)

Here is a great recipe too....Oh my goodness they are good!  The recipe belongs to Dana Carpender and she calls them Heroin Wings...Haha  Once you have them you will know why.  ;D  I couldn't find where she has them listed but the recipe it'self is all over the internet.  


I also like to roll my chicken wings in just plain parmesan cheese and garlic salt or coat in Walden Farms BBQ sauce,lemon pepper, sugar free teriyaki sauce....you really can't mess up wings.  Put what you like on them.  If you don't want to bake them throw them in a deep fryer...it only takes about 3-5 minutes for them to be done.  

Where there is a will there is a way...we can find a replacement for anything you can't live without  ;)  

Update to this post:
I wanted to come back to this post and place a link to the recipe.   All I can find is a link back to her book where it allows you to preview it (I'm assuming that is why you can find it all over the web)....her recipe is on page 43 of the book.  Because it is copy-written material I erased the recipe I posted above, you can find it here though.  I just didn't want to post someone else's work without giving credit  :)  http://books.google.com/books?id=YFJru1M8G-wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=500+low+carb+recipes+by+Dana+Carpender&hl=en&sa=X&ei=pXz7UNv5KIr-8AS5q4CIAg&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=500%20low%20carb%20recipes%20by%20Dana%20Carpender&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=YFJru1M8G-wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=500+low+carb+recipes+by+Dana+Carpender&hl=en&sa=X&ei=pXz7UNv5KIr-8AS5q4CIAg&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=500%20low%20carb%20recipes%20by%20Dana%20Carpender&f=false)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 19, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Thank you TooSweet, great recipes.  As for the smoothies, I really do try to omit the bananas most of the time and stick to just berries and lots of greens.  I do want very much to stay away from sucralose (Spenda) as it's 2 molecules away from a being a pesticide.  I only use stevia when I can.  Do you ever use Atkins bars?  I know they have crap sweeteners in them, but perhaps for on the go?  I was on Medifast for some time and although I lost weight on it, I was deathly starving the whole time and that's because the stuff is full of fructose, first ingredient.  I have to keep listening to all of you, keep reading things, etc. to learn what to do in a healthier way.  I appreciate it.  I'd love to know your story!
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: MommaB on January 19, 2013, 11:33:14 PM
I have pretty bad experience with the Atkins bars because they have so much of the sugar alcohols!! They completely stall my weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/) and even make me gain, if I eat them too often! I would personally stay away from them!

Pork rinds are good for snacking and I can usually find different flavors in the grocery store! Just make sure to check the back for the carb count. The ones I snack on are 0 carb!

I've also found some great low carb tortillas! Remember that you can subtract the fiber from total carbs to get the net carbs! I use Ole' tortillas and they are 5 carbs each. I usually cut one in half and stuff it with chicken salad. Very yummy and gets a little fiber in without having to cook the flax meal bread, etc. for on the road!

I hope this helps a little bit! I look forward to hearing about your successes!!! :D
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 19, 2013, 11:57:17 PM
I have a horrible sweet tooth myself...hence the name "TooSweet"  Hahaha  I really like the taste of the Atkins bars but the problem with those is that most all of them will spike my blood sugar.  Some of their math doesn't add up on some of there products as well....hmmmmm  kinda makes you wonder.  I really like making my own, that way I know what is in them.  There isn't any reason why you can't use stevia.  It all is up to you on your choice of sweeteners.   :)

My story is pretty simple.  I have a friend that started using FTS and shared her story with me.  She dropped about 75 lbs and straightened out her blood work.  At the time I was planning for my son's wedding and couldn't stand the thought of buying a dress.  Lord knows what size I would have had to get!!  Haha  I wanted to look really good if you know what I mean.  My baby was getting married, my ex was going to be there....well you get the picture.  I decided what do I have to lose??  But a whole lot of weight...HA!   Well within 2 weeks of being on FTS I had dropped weight sure......but the most surprising was that for the first time in several years my blood sugar was stabilizing with no spikes  :o   I had finally found a way to get control of my life again.  I had been told (by my diabetes nurse) to eat 40 to 60 carbs a meal and up to 180 a day.  Not to worry if I needed more medicine to stabilize my numbers.  By doing that I had worked myself up to a 50 lbs gain, 2 different diabetes pills and insulin injections to boot!!  I still couldn't control my sugar.  By two weeks in without all the sugar.....I dumped my diabetes meds, no longer had to worry about that sick feeling with the spikes.......and after a month I no longer needed my blood pressure pill.  I totally believe that FTS has literally saved my life in more ways than one.   I am also disabled with arthritis, although living the FTS lifestyle hasn't taken that completely away, I can't deny that it sure has helped.  Inflammation in the body is so destructive in so may ways.  When you subtract things that cause that such as "sugar"  it can't help but make a difference.  Trust me when I say I am one that has always had a horrible sweet tooth!  If I were honest I would have to say I still do.  The difference now is I can control what and how I sooth it.  I can make the family all the goodies I used to make and loved to eat myself and not bat an eye at it.  I just allow myself to enjoy my special treats.  So you see....if I can do it I know anyone can.  But I'll tell you if I eat anything that has sugar in it or to high in carbs.....I'm ravenous and wanting anything in sight.  It will take me a couple of days to get back to normal again.   Do yourself a favor and give it a try doing FTS 100%.  Just to get you out of detox completely.  What do you have to lose to get all in for 30 days.  In that time you will feel amazing, and you will easily see how your body reacts when you allow that sugar back in.  By the way that dress that I finally did get..... was amazing  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: umpa on January 20, 2013, 09:23:13 AM
No sweet tooth here!! :D :D  My husband calls me Umpa lumpa like the umpas from charlie and the chocolate factory!!Wicked sweet tooth!! :D :D And I am only 5 ft tall!
Marian the reason people are so successful on fat to skinny is that we don't remove foods we replace them that way when you lose the weight and balance blood sugars there is nothing to add back in to make you gain the weight back Cycle broken.Its a lifestyle change.There are tons of recipes here just go to the home page (red button on left of page) and search for what you want to eat.If its not here just go to the home page to ask umpa. That would be me and I will convert any recipe you have to fat to skinny friendly.I don't do green smoothies but I am a herbalist and I do infusions, 2 ounces of herb to 2 quarts of water steeped for 8 hours.My favorite is stinging nettle but there are 26 herbs in the rotation. I am in full blown menopause and the herbs help alot.They are also very nutritious! ;)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 20, 2013, 12:38:51 PM
I am SO glad you replied to me today thank you.  Thank you MommaB for your reply. Yes, toosweet, I want to do this 100%, I do.  I will even cut out the smoothies and only make savory ones if I must, I don't like eating salad and I want to get my greens.  Congrats on your success, I'm glad you shared your story.  I hope you had a great time at your kid's wedding.  I know seeing the ex is hard.  I have diabetes also, for many years before it was officially diagnosed, I see that in retrospect.  I am a dreaded apple shape.  I don't tolerate oral diabetes meds, so I've been on insulin for a few years now.  All of a sudden even with FTS so far, I have to up my insulin.  What gives?  I had high blood sugar this morning and couldn't figure it out.  I had an ATKINS meal bar before bed, that's what must have done it.  I was craving sugar badly last night. You are right.  I can't eat that crap.  I need to tell you all another important thing that I left out.  I cannot tolerate any gluten.  So, no tortillas for me, MommaB.  And pork rinds make me very sick, I hate them (no offense).  So, no gluten, no pork rinds.  I'm pretty limited.  I live in Oregon though, where there are a million health food stores and I can get away without the gluten.  Thanks, Umpa.  I wish I knew how to use this site better, then I'd be all over it. I am also only 5'1" tall!  Also, my body won't release weight and my blood sugar won't go down, what's wrong with me?  I'm very lost and frustrated.  And HUNGRY. I won't step foot on the scale because I starved down to 173 last year on Medifast and I can tell by my fat body and how my clothes fit  among other reasons that I am back well into the 200's. Can you please tell me...how do I post my picture on here and how do I get email notification when I have replies to my postings?  I told you, I'm an idiot with technology!  Thank you all.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 20, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Hmmm  very curious that your sugar should spike high.  If you are eating low carb you are more likely to need to adjust your insulin lower.   ???  I'm a bit confused as well.  Maybe if you post what your menu is, including everything that passes your lips.    We can have a look and see what my be causing it.  As for the gluten, I realize not all low carb items are gluten free but a good number are.  We can sure work around that  ;)  Just be careful because not all gluten free items are low carb  :)

At least until you get through sugar detox you should probably just keep it simple.  Lean proteins and greens....lots and lots of good cold water.  Probably stay away from the sugar alcohols.  If you allow yourself fructose or sugar at all it will cause you to crave it for sure.   You are keeping yourself in a viscous circle.  Put those Atkins bars away for a bit and only use them as a special treat down the road if it doesn't spike your blood sugar  ;)  You can do this...we are here to help   
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
Hi TooSweet, I forgot to tell you.  I write down everything I eat, every day for years now and the time I eat it.  Also whatever else goes in my mouth (well....food that is! LOL)...Hey, I'm a pro comedienne, I can get away with saying that!  Yes, I'm biting the bullet, very hard, craving sugar madly.  But I am making some whey shakes with stevia and raw cacao, that helps!  Please keep writing.  I tried to put my photo on my profile on here, but it didn't take.  Thank you, Marian
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 20, 2013, 07:05:28 PM
No worries ....we won't leave you  ;)  Here is where Doug explains about the avatars (pictures) and tickers http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=46.0 (http://www.fattoskinny.net/index.php?topic=46.0)  Maybe this will help?

Keep in mind that this is probably why your picture isn't showing up....keep posting  :)  You only have a few more to go!
 
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This first thing you need to know is you can create & post a ticker right away, but you have to have posted 10 times before you can post your picture avatar.  That helps keep the spammers from jumping in here with bad content.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 21, 2013, 01:35:38 AM
Ok, thank you, I guess I have to keep posting for a while to put my picture up.  I read Umpa (Sherri) and Doug's posting about Splenda.  But Sucralose IS Splenda, isn't that what is in your zero calories sweetener?  I am looking for ways to help my sweet tooth, but I only am willing to use Stevia, Splenda only rarely.  Any good ideas? I really screwed up badly tonight.  I made some great hot wings...I made, instead of flour, a bowl of finely grated (powdery) parm cheese, garlic powder, salt and pepper and rolled each wing in it.  Placed the wings on foil-covered, Pam sprayed lasagna pans.  Baked for 45 minutes at 400.  Delicious...need broiling on other side for five or ten minutes next time before eating for more crispness, but still good.  Then tossed them in Frank's sauce with butter.  Celery and bleu cheese with it.  Very good, great meal.  I could eat that daily and be happy.  BUT then I started eating tonight after this great meal and wasn't even hungry.  I had Suzie's thin cakes (6 net carbs for 3 of them) with turkey, mayo, sprouts (I grow my own sprouts constantly), and cheese.  Still low carb and good, but NOT hungry.  THEN I ate a fairly carby thing with a glass of unsweetened almond milk...but again, the problem was I WASN'T HUNGRY.  What's wrong with me that I want to eat and eat and eat?  I want sweets all the time too.  I have to start over tomorrow.  I have to figure out exactly what to eat, when to eat it and how much to eat.  I am LOST!!!
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 21, 2013, 06:18:29 AM
Those wings sound amazing  ;D  Your best weapon in the FTS lifestyle is to plan ahead.  Decide what you will eat tomorrow and don't sway from that plan.  Have foods ready and prepared ahead of time.  If it's there ready for you, you don't have to think about it again.  Ask yourself....am I truly hungry.  If the answer is no grab a glass of water, a piece of sugar free gum....get busy doing something with your hands.  Sounds to me like you are eating out of habit and maybe boredom.  I am an emotional eater.....in the past it would make me feel better to eat something wonderful.  If you realize your triggers you can avoid them. 

As for the Splenda...no worries you can use stevia in any of the recipes that are listed.  If you need help converting how much to use just ask.   Someone will chime in   ;D 

Hang in there....take a deep breath and make a plan for tomorrow.  This is a lifestyle change not a race...you'll get the hang of it in no time  :)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Stephanie on January 21, 2013, 08:25:20 AM
Hi Marian
Welcome to the forum. I have read what you have written so far in this post, sorry for the late response been offline for few days here.... ahhhh I love comcast lol ! Preparation is they key. I am a nurse and I work 12-13 hour shifts. For example I am working tomorrow and Wednesday and I just completed my meals to bring with me. I usually only eat 2 times a day with a small snack in between. So in my lunch box for tomorrow is 2 fried eggs and 4 slices of bacon.  2 cheese sticks, and one bag of almongs that are prepackaged individually wrapped. I take sandwich steak and chop it up, fry it in oil  and put cheese on it . I also I have 1/2 cup of green beans to go with that. I also drink a gallon of water a day. That is 7 bottles of water for me.  Like many have said keep it simple. I have been living my new lifestyle for 7 months now and I still keep it simple and at times will broaden my horizons by making something new. Simple is easy for me it decreases anxiety. We do not base our eating around here on breakfast lunch dinner. We eat when we are hungry, truly hungry. This is part of learning process you will learn as you go along. Personally if my stomach is not grumbling and I have drank a bottle of water and it still grumbles then I am hungry . This is not just a physical change that we are making but you will emotionally change through this process. I have made such huge changes not only physically but emotionally i am learning new things every day .As woman we often tend to be emotional eaters so trust me we can relate! You have to take the power and dig deep within yourself to find the strength to want to change your life. With the help of this support system here it is possible, TRUST ME! Blessings
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Doug Varrieur on January 21, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
Hi Marian, eating out of boredom is a typical problem which is easily resolved. All you need to do is make yourself aware when you're ready to reach into the fridge for food when you're not hungry and then do some other activity instead of eating. Take a walk, write a song, write some jokes, log onto the forum, knit a sweater etc... To make yourself aware click the enclosed link and download the refrigerator reminder and post copies everywhere you have food stashed  ;)

click-  https://files.secureserver.net/3sfyrvvrcxarsH
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Maddysmom on January 21, 2013, 10:24:07 AM
Hi Marian!  So glad you have joined the forum with us! I LOVE it that you are an entertainer! wow!  A few months at this, and I bet you will have a whole new line of jokes.  I love bacon, and I see funny bacon jokes on facebook all the time. ha ha

Anyway,  I know you can do this.  I agree with everyone that if you commit to 2 full weeks, you will be be on your way.  I have no will power, but somehow FTS just works for me.  I never feel deprived because there's so many wonderful things you can make.  The cheesecakes are out of this world.  In the Summer, I love the shakes made of almond milk & strawberries too.  Tonight I am having Doug's macafoney & cheese....I love that!   By the way, my first name is Marian, but my parents always called me by my middle name, Jan.  I was named after my grandpa who was named "Jasper Marion".  .....so all my life I spelled my first name as Marion like he did and only a few years ago realized I had been spelling it wrong.  My birth certificate is Marian. ha ha  Oh well.......   Best of luck to you!  You can totally DO THIS!!   :)
Title: I GIVE UP, PLEASE HELP, THANK YOU
Post by: maidmarian on January 21, 2013, 02:00:43 PM
Thank you to all of you for your replies to me, I appreciate it.  I wrote Doug and Sherri an "I give up" email today, but as they are busy people, I am turning to the forum for help.  Yes, I'm an emotional eater.  I also still have a raging sweet tooth that is very hard to deal with and a lot of hunger prob. due to my diabetes. I think I would make the cheesecake or other desserts and not be able to stop.  I know sugar is death, but I can't seem to know how much to eat, when to eat and what to eat.  If I eat when I hungry, like this morning after that binge and less than 3 hours sleep, I am pretty full now.  I had 12 carbs for my breakfast meal.  I figured out the whey shakes I like to make are 6 carbs. Here is the email I sent to them asking for help, it is entitled "I give up", Sherri advised me to post to the forum so here it goes:

I did look at the boards at sweets and snacks, but I don't use Splenda.  Sherri, I am feeling awful this morning.  I feel like crap.  I was going ok for about 5 days, low carb, no sugars or very low carb eating.  The only carbs I was eating was Suzie's thin cakes (6 net carbs per 3 crackers, they are like thin rice cakes, not made of rice) on which I put turkey, mayo, sprouts and cheese,  In my whey shakes, I made those with a bit of unsweetened almond milk, MRM all natural whey powder (very low in carb), 1/4 cup or so of half and half, raw cacao powder, chia seeds, flax meal, decaf coffee.  I would drink that about twice per day, have a green smoothie with greens, avocado, berries and a lean and green meal.  I am always hungry and always have a raging sweet tooth.  I ended up having a binge all last night.  I wasn't even hungry.  It started after a good dinner of hot wings that I made with celery and blue cheese. I baked them, rolled them in parm cheese, salt, pepper and garlic powder, tossed in Frank's hot sauce with some butter, they were great.  Then I lost control.  Had a whey shake because I wanted something sweet and I use stevia in those.  Then I have more turkey and cheese crackers/thin cakes with mayo and sprouts...then in the middle of the night, I had more thin cakes with peanut butter and blackberry JELLY...I woke up just now feeling horrible.  I can't lose weight (http://www.fattoskinny.com/).  I'm so fat.  I can't do this.  I am going to die, Sherri.  I am diabetic, my sugars are out of control.  The only thing that works for me is to eat horrible Medifast shakes and starve to death with those and a lean and green each day.  That is all mapped out for me, but it makes me starve.  The Medifast is garbage, made of fructose, having 10 grams of sugar in each packet.  I am at a total loss and have now given up.  I'm a mess, I honestly feel no one cares and that I can't do this.  I feel even if I'm eating meat and greens, which I DON'T LIKE, my body won't lose the weight.  I feel people care at the boards and that you and Doug care, then I feel no one cares anymore because I am a failure.
 
I'm very depressed.
 
Thank you for your ear.
 
Marian

Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Maddysmom on January 21, 2013, 02:51:16 PM
Marian please don't give up!  :-\  You are not a failure!  Try to stop believing those negative thoughts like that.  I wish we lived close enough to spend a day together.  I really feel like if you could hold out 2 weeks to get past detox you would feel totally different.  If you can't do sucralose, have you tried xylitol?  I am a big eater, and I LOVE sweets.  If I could make you a plate of pancakes made from almond flour or flax seed meal and topped with sugar free syrup.....I just believe you wouldn't be hungry all day.  Please stick with us!! 
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Doug Varrieur on January 21, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
Marian dear you need to get a grip on yourself. First of all you're not going to die so snap out of that thought process. You're an addict just like the rest of us. You are addicted to carbs and food. If you don't like meat then eat fish, poultry and tofu and lots of greens. You are wasting so many carbs on your crackers and your whey shakes, get rid of both. Instead of a whey shake eat another 1/2 dozen chicken wings with zero carbs, you'll fill up and stay leveled. As for me sugar free hard candies got me through my sweet tooth problems and eventually the sweet tooth subsided dramatically.

3 hours of sleep is big problem for overweight people, it gives you more time to boredom eat and not enough rest which in itself will cause depression.

We communicate with our reader base through the forum so everyone can take advantage of the answers and are able to relate and chime in with their own issues and support.

I hope you downloaded the refrigerator reminder from the link I placed in the post above, it will help you.

In the end it's up to you to have the "want to" all the support in the world won't take the place of a person's own commitment to them selves  ;) You have all the tools you need within the pages of FAT TO SKINNY and this reader forum, what I see you lacking is a total buy in to the program. Make a decision today and mark your calendar, get through 2 full weeks and I promise you you'll be well on your way to your new lifestyle and to weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/)  8)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Andrea on January 21, 2013, 03:49:19 PM
Okay, Marian, here's another take on it - same message, another way of looking at it.  Your first emails were a call for help that included a list of things you just can't give up and why?  Have to have the whey shakes for phytonutrients.  Can't use any sweetner but stevia.  Can't lose weight (http://www.fattoskinny.com/).  Can't calm my sweet tooth.  We need to get you a new vocabulary, girl! 

You are taking information from all your failed diets and bringing bad habits into your FTS world and, frankly, that doesn't work.  You didn't give FTS a very long trial and yes, you will feel awful for a while.  That is what withdrawl is all about.  You and only you can control how long you stay in withdrawl and feel so bad.  It passes.  Everyone on the forum will atest to that.  But, like any drug, if you use again, you withdraw again.   We can't fix that, but you can.  Get all the old stuff out of your home.  Buy eggs, a few blocks of cheese, any green vegetable you can stand (I know, you don't like greens) some ground beef or chicken or any meat you can tolerate and drink as much water as you can stand - a gallon a day is not too much.  A good multi-vitamin is important especially if you aren't eating vegetables.  Keep it simple and GIVE IT TIME.  You didn't get in this state in a day, you can't expect to get out of it in the blink of an eye.

One final question?  Do you have a regular doctor you can go to to make sure you a) have normal thyroid function and b) are not clinically depressed?  We aren't medical professionals and we can only discuss our personal experiences but it seems important to make sure you aren't battling other underlying problems that can be handled separately. 

We all wish you the best and I hope you won't be your own worst enemy.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: morgan on January 21, 2013, 04:41:13 PM
Marian -  How much do you weigh and how much do you think you need to lose? 
             Do you really want to lose this weight?

From the sounds of it, not really.  You want things to change desparately (as we all do/did) but you don't want to change anything.  Well if things aren't working for you now sweetie, you are gonna have to change them. 

I can sympathise and empathise and we all want to support you, but in the end it is all up to you.  We are here for you.  Don't give up on yourself. Ditch all the things you have been doing, detox all the crap out of your system including those shakes.  Clear out those cupboards and pay attention to the book.  Pick out what you can eat, buy them and only them.

Stop with the negative thoughts which only breeds more negative thoughts.  Instead of all the 'I can'ts' go with 'I am able to'.

Good luck.  You really can do this.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 21, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
Andrea, Doug and MaddysMom, I read your replies.  Thank you.  I hope I'm using this site correctly.  Yes, I am clinically depressed and have been for man years with PTSD due to several tragedies in my life.  My thyroid is normal.  I even had an angiogram a couple of months ago showing 20 percent narrowing, which the doctor said is ok and to lose weight (http://www.fattoskinny.com/).  I do like meat I didn't mean to say it that way.  I just can't stand meat and greens all the time.  I want carbs badly after a while.  I really like all meats and I make a great Caesar salad dressing, that's the only way I like salad, with romaine lettuce and my dressing. I can tolerate green vegs for the most part and green smoothies.  It's not that I use WHEY shakes for the phytonutrients, they don't have phytonutrients.  The green smoothies do.  They whey shakes are a good meal to use, very low carb whey powder...well, I told you what I put in those.  As for my Vitamix blender, I see I will have to turn to making savory smoothies with just greens and peppers in them...how are raw tomatoes, are they ok for carbs?  Having to count things, carbs, calories, anything makes me crazy.  I have succeeded before eating low carb...like Atkins with more veggies.  I did lose my sweet tooth in 2 weeks like you're all saying.  In your book, Doug, which I love, you are right.  Sugar is death.  BUT sometimes (often lately) I know I am killing myself with food and still opt for that.  I keep telling myself dying's fine.  But that's not the real me.  I am on pain meds, albeit small doses, but daily and have been on benzodiazapine medications, very small doses, for 36 years now, since I was young, for my head injury and my PTSD.  I am also pretty constipated, although yesterday I had the opposite happen.  When eating low carb (which I tell myself is cutting out bread, starch and sweets), tell me how to get more fiber.  I use flax meal in my whey shakes and the greens have fiber, but I may need more.  I also want you all to know I don't tolerate gluten well, esp. wheat.  My heart races from it and I bloat from it.  So, no gluten.  I also don't use Splenda or Sucralose (same thing) because I want to get away from artificial sweeteners.  I want to do this in the healthiest way I can.  I would love to make some low carb desserts, but I'm afraid I would eat a lot of them at one time.  I allow myself 2 squares of 85% chocolate per day.  That's low carb, but I'd even like to cut that out as it gives me reflux and just use raw cacao (about 1 carb) with stevia to make some kind of sweet, I would love a recipe or two.  I appreciate the help, but I can't help it, Doug and friends, even though I am one hundred percent committed (even though you think I am not, I really am), I can't seem to really do it right.  I am very committed to this.  I'm off to perform in Las Vegas one week from today.  It can't be too hard to eat low carb there.  Thank you for being there for me, all of you.  I am grateful.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 21, 2013, 05:40:12 PM
Hi Morgan, of COURSE I want to lose this weight, I don't think I sound like I don't want to.  If so, that is not the truth.  I want to and badly.  The shakes I make aren't what you think.  They are whey powder, which is 1.5 carbs, with decaf coffee (0 carbs), flax and chia (I need to have something in me that will help me poop and these are virtually carb-less, a little unsweetened almond milk, a little half and half, some raw cacao (1 carb), stevia.  How does this not fit into my eating plan?  It does.  Aren't I allowed 20 grams per day?  So, why would I give these shakes up?  They make a great small meal.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 21, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
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I allow myself 2 squares of 85% chocolate per day

I hate to say it but eating things like this will keep you in that detox mode....or at least drag it out.  I understand what you are saying...it's low carb but even low carb things will derail you if eaten at the wrong times or to much of it. 

I can hear a lot of frustration in your posts....I can so understand.  We have all been where you are....some even worse.  I believe you have convinced yourself you are going to fail before you even get stated.  Take a deep breath and tell yourself you are important enough to give it a go. 

Recipes are easy....meal plans are easy too.    ;)  Give us a list of things you like to eat on a regular basis and we can give you some suggestions.

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They are whey powder, which is 1.5 carbs, with decaf coffee (0 carbs), flax and chia (I need to have something in me that will help me poop and these are virtually carb-less, a little unsweetened almond milk, a little half and half, some raw cacao (1 carb), stevia.
  These don't sound too bad.....you could probably tweak them a bit.  Maybe use 0 carb heavy whipping cream and what brand of raw cocoa do you use that is 1 carb?  Can you post the brand?  My local grocery has a 0 carb cocoa powder...I'm wondering if you can find that where you are? 

For more fiber I love to use the one minute muffins....they are so versatile and so filling.  You can make them as a muffin or put the batter in a frying pan to make pancakes or waffle iron for waffles.  I like to make up a bunch of muffins and throw them in the freezer.  20 seconds in the micro in the morning with my coffee and I'm in heaven.  The flax keeps things moving along...if you know what I mean.  You could have one of your smoothies with this.   ;)  I would cut out the fruits for now.  You must be super sensitive to natural sugars.  Even if they are in the eating plan....I would avoid them for now.

Keep hard boiled eggs in the fridge (for egg salads, deviled eggs or eaten as is) and meets and cheeses.  When you want to go on a grazing moment reach for those.  Make some more of those yummy wings.  If you need something sweet....like I said before grab a sugar free hard candy.  Instead of the crackers use lettuce leaves.  Do you like jello?  One of my favorite things is the sugar free jello with whipped cream.  (good for that sweet tooth)  Once you have gone through detox you can explore some of the yummy goodies we have in the recipe sections.  I store mine in the freezer to keep from splurging to much or often. 

I'm wondering if you are taking in way more carbs than you realize.  When you blend things to liquid it takes so much more of them to make a decent serving amount.  You could easily get out of hand with your carbs quick.  I'm not saying you can't have them but you may want to limit them a bit.   If you are staying hungry you may need more protein in your diet.   


Here is a point I wanted to make as well.  This is from one diabetic to another....I'm assuming you are still taking the same amount of meds.  When you change your eating habits your sugar will go crazy on you.  I don't know about you but when mine went high or low my first impulse was to eat something to feel better.  I hate feeling sick  :P :P  That could very well be a driving force in the cycle you are on.  Have you spoken with your doc about what you are trying to do?  They could very well help you to regulate your sugar and meds as you come off of the carbs.  Until then you are going to feel pretty lousy.  Personally it became very evident very quickly that I didn't need the meds any more.  They were making me sick  :P   Before you change anything on your own though....please speak to your doc. 

Next....sleep is very important.  There are more and more studies that prove the health affects of sleep deprivation.  I have struggled with insomnia and depression all of my life....it does make a difference.  My suggestion....get plenty of exercise or activity that makes you tired (I have arthritis and can't exercise very much  ;) ) Do what you can to get a better sleep scheduled.  Your body needs to do it's thing while you are sleeping. 

I know this is a book....I'm sorry to go on like this but I so want you to see that this is something well worth doing....you are worth it.  You are not alone here!  Like Maddysmom I wish we lived closer...I would come over and talk you through it. 

Give me an idea of what you would like to eat and I'll find you a recipe  ;)  http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2012/01/15/three-ingredient-chocolate-bars-1/ (http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2012/01/15/three-ingredient-chocolate-bars-1/)  Here is an idea to replace your chocolate bar when you are ready and through detox.  I would suggest using as close to 0 carb cocoa as you can  ;D  Hang in there!!  We are just a post away  ;)

 
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 21, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
Hi TooSweet, thank you, I read it all.  Read my 3 new posts today, I'm doing better.  With you all here for me, I can't fail.  I have cut out the smoothies for now, but that does give me MUCH less phytonutrients.  Oh well, I can have some berries back after some weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/)...or when I reach goal.  I am sensitive to sugars, very.  I would like the recipe for the muffins you are talking about please.  I don't eat gluten, but they prob. don't have any, please tell me that one.  Please read what I ate today, I posted it, and tell me what I did.  The brand of cacao is Navitas Naturals raw, organice cocao powder, I love it.  I only use 1 TBSP, which makes it only 1 net carb.  I can use less of it too.  Perhaps I'm starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel now.  I'm traveling to Vegas next week, I will do the right snacks.  I ordered (online) some low carb, xylitol sweetened jelly and ketchup...and some crackers that are zero carb and gluten free.  Yay!  A little expensive, but I'll let you know how they are.  I am keeping track of my blood sugar and hope to lower my insulin soon like I could last year when I was 173.  Right now, I'm prob. around 210, I refuse to weigh, so I'm not sure, but I can tell, due to my experience wth how I feel at certain weights.  I'm only 5'1".  I want to lose at least 80 lbs.  As for the exercise, I need it.  I've been sedentary for many months now.  I finally got my husband (who's depressed because he's been laid off for over a year) to take a walk with me today in the freezing air...at least five minutes, it's a start.  I will continue and keep adding time.  I used to work out, so I have muscle memory going for me.  I have a strong body, but I've been ruining my health badly all my life, but esp. these last few months.  Again, thank goodness for all of you.  Tell me how I did and if you are able to see my other 3 postings from today.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 22, 2013, 02:32:22 AM
Hi Marian...yes I read all and responded to all of them  ;)  You are doing so great!!   If you don't see the other posts let me know and I'll give you some more links for recipes.  One thing though....by looking at the label on line for your cocoa powder it seems to be actually 2 carbs for that one Tbs.  Here is the link: http://www.mynaturalmarket.com/navitas-naturals-organic-raw-cacao-powder-16-oz.html?osCsid=3e1c935dd31d8167c7ffeaacc237c6ea (http://www.mynaturalmarket.com/navitas-naturals-organic-raw-cacao-powder-16-oz.html?osCsid=3e1c935dd31d8167c7ffeaacc237c6ea)

I understand that some products will change up their packaging....that is why it is so frustrating and you should always look at them before buying...even if you have bought them before.  It just shows though how being off by just one carb can make a difference  :-\  When you only have 20 net carbs....you tend to get stingy with them...Haha   Giving those other things up doesn't mean you have to forever either...just until you have a handle on things and more control.

Just remember baby steps!  Hang in there.....You've got this girl!!
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: Doug Varrieur on January 22, 2013, 09:23:40 AM
Hi Marian, have your read the FAT TO SKINNY Fast and Easy book yet? I have a record of you buying the Sugar Free Bakery book but not the core book. ????
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: umpa on January 22, 2013, 09:30:22 AM
Marian have you read Fat to Skinny Book or only the Fat to Skinny Bakery? :)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 22, 2013, 11:01:40 AM
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I have a record of you buying the Sugar Free Bakery book but not the core book. ?

That could explain some of the confusion  ???
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: mouseissue on January 22, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
... I have a record of you buying the Sugar Free Bakery book but not the core book. ????

Hi, Marian! :)

I agree with TooSweet.

If you haven't read Doug's book, it will be more difficult for you to get completely on board with the FTS lifestyle.
Going through "sugar detox" is challenging enough without that burden.

We're all here for you, Marian.
But please read that book so that the help and support we offer will be more effective.

Tony
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 22, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
Yes, I have the original book, I don't have the bakery book at all, but I'm interested in it if it has sweets I can have gluten free and stevia. All I have read is the original book so far.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: maidmarian on January 22, 2013, 01:47:54 PM
Here's what happened, Doug...I looked back on my records and the here's the reason you see no record of my buying your book...I was reading "Living Low Carb" by Johnny Bowden, whom I like a lot.  He gave your book five stars and the way he described it and its simplicity I knew it was the book for me.  I went to eBay and found it there.  I bought it right away.  It obviously was sold to me by someone else, not you.  I have the original, hard-copy book with the yellow cover, copyright 2008.
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: shawn116 on January 22, 2013, 02:31:02 PM
Good to know Marian  :)  It's nice to know we are all on the same page  ;)
Title: Re: I need your help please
Post by: umpa on January 25, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Marian the flours used in the Fat to Skinny Bakery Book are golden flaxseed,Flaxseed ,Almond Flour(I prefer unblanched),Soy Flour ,Walnut,and hazelnut.  ;)
Title: Re: Re: I need your help please
Post by: jay12 on February 23, 2013, 05:56:39 AM
We are with you Marian. Don't give up