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Title: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: nardia34 on June 21, 2010, 01:38:12 PM
I am skeptical about starting fat to skinny because its like the Atkins diet. i did some years ago after i had my second child lost 25lbs but gained it back. i saw your program  on 700 club and felt hope again. However when i got the book and realize it was a low carb, i lost hope. i love  all types of fruit and veggies, the diet requires me to give that up until i have lost all 60lbs! I have not started for my failure to be disappointed again. i want to do this because my 18 year old is 200lbs and i do not want to start her on yo yo dieting, i want to lose the weight  and maintain it so she can see , she cam do it as well. Where do I start?
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: katary on June 21, 2010, 02:10:47 PM
 8) i am looking at the book right now and see a long list of low sugar veggies that are permitted  :) fruits not so much only fresh/frozen berries & avocados!!! bottom line sugar makes you fat,this differs from Atkins because Doug & umpa have provided "substitute foods" that are either low sugar or sugar free :o and i am one of many folks that are sooooo thankful for both of them!!!!!  everyone on the forum is here to support one and other..we are all on a quest for HEALTH and this forum/FTS lifestyle has been a godsend for me :D and i am sure UMPA and or DOUG will address your predicament today..till than please don't close your mind to the lifestyle(not diet) change>> i think UMPA has some fruit flavored items that may be right up your alley!!!>>Gary ;)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: owensmath on June 21, 2010, 02:13:23 PM
I disagree with the statement that you have to give up fruits and veggies. You have to choose carefully, but we all are eating fruits and veggies. The greener the better with veggies, but I've learned about new vegetables since starting this lifestyle. I had never heard of jicama or choyote squash for example. I eat strawberries, blackberries, blueberries, and kiwi fruit. I have a salad every day. I've had artichoke, cauliflower, cucumber, tomato, and other vegetables just in the last few days.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: Doug Varrieur on June 21, 2010, 07:06:08 PM
The comments above are right on, it's all about choices. Have you ever had bread made with flax seed flour, or almond meal or biscuits made from pork rinds? Have you ever enjoyed blackberry cobbler made with hazelnut flour topped with reddi whip? These are the things that make FAT TO SKINNY so much different from Atkins or any other low carb program.....we replace EVERYTHING :) Now with that all said I want to remind you what you've told us, the last time you went on a low carb diet you lost 25 pounds. Why did you gain it back?? Simple because you went back to eating COW food. Hop in both feet and quit worrying, everyone here will show you the way to long term life long weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/)  :)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: umpa on June 21, 2010, 07:17:43 PM
Welcome Nardia! :) Everyone is right.At Fat to Skinny its not about removing foods its about replacing them.Diets don't work, this is a lifestyle change.Don't quit before you start what do you have to lose?(besides weight? ;D)
i have a column called ask umpa on the homepage where i will help you convert your favorite recipes.We also have a recipe section that is 4 or 5 pages long and growing everyday! The latest favorites are peanut butter cookies and potatoe salad...YUMMY!We are here for you, we are all in the same boat! Be brave grab a oar and start rowing! ;)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: Novoflux on June 18, 2011, 03:04:08 PM
I love apples and all berries, how exactly to you substitute those? Cuz that's harsh man! I would rather each a handfull of raspberries than potato chips any day.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: owensmath on June 18, 2011, 03:33:49 PM
You don't substitute them, you just count the carbs into your total of 20 for the day. I eat blackberries, strawberries, and blueberries.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: Alex Cruz on June 18, 2011, 03:37:01 PM
I eat fruits and veggies all the time.. Its all about choosing the right fruits and veggies... This is a great program that teaches you to eat healthier without feeling deprieved...  If you start with a negative outlook, you will not get a positive result...

Also its about eating in moderation... Give it a try, you will like it..

best of luck....
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: mouseissue on June 18, 2011, 04:48:49 PM
I love apples and all berries, how exactly to you substitute those? Cuz that's harsh man! I would rather each a handfull of raspberries than potato chips any day.

Hi Novoflux! :)

I agree with Alex and owensmath!
It's all about choices, portion sizes, and keeping track of your daily net carb intake.
So enjoy your berries. Just pay attention to how many carbs your eating.

I too used to LOVE apples and ate them constantly. So I know how you feel.
But sadly, apples are extremely high in fructose (fruit sugar). That's what makes apple juice so very sweet.
One small Red Delicious apple has about 30 net carb grams. :o :o :o
The more tart apples have a bit less. But they still are very high.

I've simply removed apples from my menu.
Because I'm enjoying so many other wonderful and delicious fruits and veggies, I really don't miss them.

After you've reached your goal and are learning your new carb tolerance level, you MAY find that you can enjoy an apple once in a while without weight gain.
Or have part of an apple and not eat any other carbs that day. But I believe that's a "wait and see" proposition.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: umpa on June 19, 2011, 08:05:45 AM
If you want a apple have it.Nothing is forbidden.You have 20 carbs to spend if you want to spend them on a apple,enjoy. ;)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: umpa on June 19, 2011, 08:06:53 AM
If you want a apple have it.Nothing is forbidden.You have 20 carbs to spend if you want to spend them on a apple,enjoy. ;)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: mouseissue on June 19, 2011, 05:53:32 PM
If you want a apple have it.Nothing is forbidden.You have 20 carbs to spend if you want to spend them on a apple,enjoy. ;)

Hi Umpa! ;)

Since apples are so high in net carbs (i.e. sugar), can they not invoke an "insulin response" which is how we get FAT in the first place?

I make a point to avoid all high carb foods because if I have any, it will stop my weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/) cold (or even gain).

I say this because I've personally experienced this more than once in my journey.
That's why I thought apples are best left for the weight maintenance portion of the FTS journey... I know they are for me!
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: owensmath on June 19, 2011, 08:05:13 PM
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/carbcounts/a/applecarbcount.htm (http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/carbcounts/a/applecarbcount.htm)

Apples are moderately high in sugar, but small amounts can be part of a low-carb diet. Use them in muffins or as a part of other foods (see recipes below).
Carbohydrate and Fiber Counts for Apples
•½ cup chopped apple: 7 grams effective (net) carbohydrate plus 1.5 grams fiber and 32 calories.
•1 medium apple (3 inches in diameter): 21 grams effective (net) carbohydrate plus 4.5 grams fiber and 95 calories.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: SherriPie on June 19, 2011, 08:13:54 PM
20 carbs go a long way. Just pick what you want to use them on and you'll do fine. Personally I'm addicted to broccoli, eat it almost everyday. I just leave my four carbs in there for a huge helping at dinner and all is good. You just have to pick and choose where to use your carbs  and go for it, it's really that simple.
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: joagain on June 19, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
Sherrie how do you cook your broccoli ? Do you eat it the same way everytime ?
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: SherriPie on June 20, 2011, 09:14:47 AM
Sherrie how do you cook your broccoli ? Do you eat it the same way everytime ?

I am a cheese garlic broccoli kinda of girl. Just a little tiny bit of fresh garlic (not to much or it over powers it), some butter and nuke it for 4 minutes. Stir it up, add some real grated cheddar cheese and nuke it for 3 more minutes. It is SO good!! My husband does some elaborate stuff to it but when I make it, I just nuke it. I also found this really good freshly frozen organic broccoli at publixs which only has 2 carbs per cup. I could eat it all day for every meal. Yummy!!
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: umpa on June 20, 2011, 10:57:09 AM
Tony I don't disagree with you.I crave apples from time to time and i will take paperthin slices and put cheddar cheese slices on them.I eat no more than 1/8 and apple at a time. I just don't think any food should be forbidden. Thats why I like extracts and infusions like banana and orange.all that flavor and no carbs ;)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: mouseissue on June 20, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Tony I don't disagree with you.I crave apples from time to time and i will take paperthin slices and put cheddar cheese slices on them.I eat no more than 1/8 and apple at a time. I just don't think any food should be forbidden. Thats why I like extracts and infusions like banana and orange.all that flavor and no carbs ;)

Hi Umpa! :)

I know that a feeling of deprivation can make any lifestyle change unpleasant and can lead to failure.
That's one of the main reasons I love FTS so much! :)

However, I've also learned on my FTS journey that apples will mess up my progress.
The three times I ate a very small amount led to stall outs with one instance leading to a gain.

No two of us are alike.
For someone else like yourself, a little apple may be no problem at all.

This is one of the beauties of this lifestyle.
As we go along, we learn much about our bodies that we may have never before known.
This knowledge not only helps us reach our goals. But helps us stay there! :) :) :)
Title: Re: luv fruits and veggies
Post by: Rena on June 20, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
Crunch Packs apples (just the plain without other fruit or caramels) are 6 net carbs.

I noticed at Disney World that the little packets of apples they offered were only 6 carbs, too. That's a high number depending on what else you're eating, but it was 'do-able' for me there because I needed something healthy and had less choices than I would at home.

http://www.crunchpak.com/products/mini-bags/ (http://www.crunchpak.com/products/mini-bags/)