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Title: Heavy cream??
Post by: Stephanie on July 31, 2012, 03:46:54 PM
I know I read in the book that heavy cream is 0 net carbs but when I figured it out on the carb counter online that was recommended it is coming out to be about 1.5 net carbs? Can someone clarify?
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Joagain on July 31, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
The walmart one I use to use has 0 but it it came out to 1 . But I like half and half it is 2 tablespoons for 1 .
So if you go by the hidden carb counter you have to count 1 for either the heavy cream or the half & half
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Stephanie on July 31, 2012, 04:17:56 PM
same with me, the shoprite brand has 0 carbs listed but came out to 1.5 like i said. i am using it for the cream of broccoli soup i found on here. when you use the hidden carb counter you use the "actual carb count" vs the difference by weight? what is that anyway ?
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Kim P on July 31, 2012, 04:22:52 PM
How about using Coconut Milk in the Carton?  The lowest carb one is 1 carb per cup.... Would that work for your soup?
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Stephanie on July 31, 2012, 04:31:43 PM
Hi Kim
I am not sure coconut milk would taste ok for cream of broccoli soup? i never used coconut milk i will have to keep that in mind : )
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Joagain on July 31, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
When I use the whole carton in a recipe I always count it  as 8 carbs just for good measure
Use this one after u subtract fiber from the carb count that's the amount of carbs you put in the carb amount in the case of the heavy cream it does not have fiber so put exactly what is on the carton see what you get

http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/hidden_carb_calculator.html (http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/hidden_carb_calculator.html)
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Stephanie on July 31, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
Hi Jo,
i went to that link and it comes up to 1.25 per serving which is 1 tablespoon. there is 64 servings in the whole container so that makes 80 carbs?? how do you get 8 carbs? HELP! lol i think i am confusing myself
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Waterlilly on July 31, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
This is an excellent question. I'm confused myself on the carb count. Thus far, my carton has a carb count of "0". I can't imagine that something with NO milk sugars, JUST cream, would have that many carbs. I just used 1/4 cup of it the other day to make the super fast brownie recipe (which was TASTY!). 1 carb per tbsp? Cheese (block) had no carbs..why would heavy cream be different?
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Joagain on July 31, 2012, 08:26:43 PM
Ok  I used   the 16 ounce(1pint) Great value  has 32 -1Tablespoons servings . it says 0 carbs so if I used it I would count 0.5 carbs per serving which would be 16 and the bag of broccoli is 10 carbs so it would be 26 carbs for the whole pot of soup. Which is 4.2 per serving (6)

I did it on the calculator too and it does come up to 1.25 and I am not sure why I just did my half & half and it came out at -2.5 so something is not right with that calculator. . One thing I just noticed on the label is that the heavy cream use to have 1 g of protein When you do it like this it works 50/5/1/0

http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html (http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html)
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Doug Varrieur on August 01, 2012, 07:48:59 AM
When you buy your heavy cream be sure to buy one that actually lists O carbs VS one that lists < 1 carb and you'll be OK. Manufactures differ from one to the next so be sure to check labels. The only time you'll have hidden carbs which are not listed on most labels will be when the serving size is so small they aren't required to list them. As is the case with Splenda packets and Tic Tac mints.  ;) 
Title: Re: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Stephanie on August 01, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
Thank you doug for clarifying. So is it safe to assume when using heavy cream with 0 carbs listed on container that I count that as 0 when using a whole container in a recipe? I feel confused as to when I should be using the hidden carb counter? Maybe that's what my real question is. I have been using it for almost everything other than meats ect.... thanks to anyone who can help me : )
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Doug Varrieur on August 01, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Yes, your safe. As far as the hidden carb counter I can't comment on it's accurecy or its designer, I never saw it before this morning.  8) Me, I stick to reading labels and ingredients.
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Waterlilly on August 02, 2012, 09:23:04 AM
When you buy your heavy cream be sure to buy one that actually lists O carbs VS one that lists < 1 carb and you'll be OK. Manufactures differ from one to the next so be sure to check labels. The only time you'll have hidden carbs which are not listed on most labels will be when the serving size is so small they aren't required to list them. As is the case with Splenda packets and Tic Tac mints.  ;) 

I'm re-posting this because this is EXCELLENT advice ;D!  Yet another benefit of FTS. NO crazy confusion or little rules to worry about.  So for my own clarity, I will summarize what Doug just said:

If it has <1 carb listed on the label, there are probably hidden carbs. If the package lists "0" carbs on the label, then it has 0 carbs which you can count on with a high level of confidence.

That sounds good to me! I made the 5 minute brownie again for breakfast and enjoyed 1/4 cup of 0 carb heavy cream and I now feel REALLY good about it. Not to mention that I feel really FULL about it too. Love that feeling. <3
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 02, 2012, 11:44:10 AM
Hi Waterlilly! :)

The only thing I'd add is to also read the ingredients lists on the food label.

Since the FDA is not very fussy about carb count accuracy, some food labels can be confusing.

For this reason, if I see a label that is a bit unclear, I'll read the ingredients list.
If any of the first three ingredients is high carb (e.g wheat, rice, etc.), I won't buy it.

I've found that products with confusing carb counts tend to have more carbs than they claim.
This is where the hidden carb counter comes in handy.

Like Doug, I've not seen that hidden carb counter version until today.
This is the one I've used for almost 2 years and have had good luck with it.
http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html (http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html)

Its calculations are very close to the FDA food listings.
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/list (http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/list)

Other than those confusing labels we sometimes encounter, FTS is very simple and easy to follow.
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Joagain on August 02, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Tony that is the one that said it had 1.25 in it . I know for a fact that the great value heavy cream had 1 gram of protein now online it says it has 0 proteins which is why that counter is wrong .
I myself always count .5 carbs per tablespoon of heavy whipping cream ,I always count something as 1 if in doubt  ;)
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 03, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
Tony that is the one that said it had 1.25 in it . I know for a fact that the great value heavy cream had 1 gram of protein now online it says it has 0 proteins which is why that counter is wrong .
I myself always count .5 carbs per tablespoon of heavy whipping cream ,I always count something as 1 if in doubt  ;)

Wow!... Thanks, Jo! :)
I'm going to have to reevaluate that counter.

That's why I rely so heavily on the ingredients lists on the nutrition labels.
If it's PURE heavy cream without ANY additives, it should be zero.

And you're wise for counting up when in doubt... Better safe, than sorry. 8)
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Southern Belle on August 04, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
So glad I saw this post...I love cream of broccoli soup and want to make it one of my top choices for dinner!  ;D Since I'm new to FTS, the clarification on what I should be looking for on food labels will come in handy. I never even paid attention to carb totals until my diagnosis of insulin resistance!!!!!

This site is super awesome!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 04, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
So glad I saw this post...I love cream of broccoli soup and want to make it one of my top choices for dinner!  ;D Since I'm new to FTS, the clarification on what I should be looking for on food labels will come in handy. I never even paid attention to carb totals until my diagnosis of insulin resistance!!!!!

This site is super awesome!!!!  :D

Hi Southern Belle! :)

I approach packaged food this way;

First, I check the carb counts and look for very low net carbs (Net Carbs = Total Carbs - fiber - sugar).

I'll then read the ingredients list.
Ingredients lists will list the ingredients in order of amount per serving.
If ANY of the first three (3) ingredients is known to be high in carbs (e.g. wheat, rice, bran, etc.), I will not purchase the product.

One other thing, also pay attention to "serving size" on those labels.
Some manufacturers will provide nutrition info on serving sizes that are ridiculously small.
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Joagain on August 05, 2012, 04:49:11 AM
77.4. GO TONY !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Waterlilly on August 05, 2012, 08:45:50 AM

[/quote] First, I check the carb counts and look for very low net carbs (Net Carbs = Total Carbs - fiber - sugar).

I'll then read the ingredients list.
Ingredients lists will list the ingredients in order of amount per serving.
If ANY of the first three (3) ingredients is known to be high in carbs (e.g. wheat, rice, bran, etc.), I will not purchase the product.

One other thing, also pay attention to "serving size" on those labels.
Some manufacturers will provide nutrition info on serving sizes that are ridiculously small.

[/quote]

I do all of the above too and I also check for corn or just plain "wheat gluten" as an additive.
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 05, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
77.4. GO TONY !!!!!!!

Thanks, Jo!!! :) :) :)

It's nice to see that number move down. But I don't invest much emotion to it.
What matters to me is being healthy so I can live a longer, happier life with my family.
The weight loss (http://www.fattoskinny.com/) is really a fringe benefit. :)
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Andrea on August 07, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
Oh, Tony!  The rest of us are anxiously watching your "to lose" number drop because you've promised PICTURES!

We're waiting patiently!
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 07, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
Oh, Tony!  The rest of us are anxiously watching your "to lose" number drop because you've promised PICTURES!

We're waiting patiently!

 ;D
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: MommaB on August 07, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
 "First, I check the carb counts and look for very low net carbs (Net Carbs = Total Carbs - fiber - sugar)."

I'm pretty sure that you meant sugar alcohols to subtract for the net carbs, but I wanted to make sure and clarify!!

Can't wait to see pictures, Tony!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: mouseissue on August 07, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
You're quite correct, Momma! :) :) :)

Thanks for pointing that out.
I would not want to confuse anyone.
Title: Re: Heavy cream??
Post by: Waterlilly on August 09, 2012, 06:49:50 PM
I just have to say that Doug's idea about counting anything that says >1 carb as one whole carb and anything that says "0" carbs as NO carbs has been a real lifesaver. I no longer wonder!  Unfortuantley, with the exception of heavy cream and pork rinds, I rarely run across anything where I need to consider the fact that it has "0" carbs  ::).